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Dimensions cave

jerome.hidalgo
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il y a 10 ans 11 mois #15 par jerome.hidalgo

Dimensions cave a été créé par jerome.hidalgo

Bonjour,

j'ai un petit verger que je vais agrandir à une trentaine de pommiers et poiriers (et peut-être plus à l'avenir).
Pour conserver ces fruits, j'ai l'intention de creuser une cave mais je n'ai aucune idée des dimensions préconisées. A priori 10m² suffisent pour une consommation familiale, mais suppose qu'une trentaine d'arbres dépassent une consommation familiale.

Quelqu'un aurait-il des ordres de grandeurs ?

Merci d'avance,

Jérôme

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il y a 10 ans 11 mois #16 par Dominique Bouladou

Le nombre d'arbre ne suffit pas pour deviner la production moyenne. La forme des arbres : espalier, plein-vent, cordon ou autre. L'idée de creuser une cave est intéressante, car avec l'humidité, les fruits ne vont pas se friper. Cependant, il faut prévoir un système d'aération pour empêcher le mûrissement trop rapide des fruits ; enfin il faut pouvoir surveiller les fruits pour retirer ceux qui se dégradent.

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jerome.hidalgo
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il y a 10 ans 11 mois #17 par jerome.hidalgo

Merci, de votre réponse. Il s'agit d'arbres demi-tige plein vent de variétés anciennes.

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il y a 10 ans 11 mois #18 par Étalon

Bonjour,
Difficile de répondre brièvement à votre question car cela dépend de la façon dont vous allez aménager votre cave. Une trentaine d’arbres, c’est suffisant pour nourrir une famille. Oui bien sûr. Sauf les années où le gel printanier ou l’alternance vous prive de toutes récoltes.
10 m², cela peut suffir. Tout dépend du nombre d’étages et des dimensions des claies qui seront installées. Vous devez pouvoir surveiller tous vos fruits afin de retirer au plus vite ceux qui sont atteints de maladies. C’est le premier paramètre à respecter
Autres paramètres :
Les arbres sont-ils gros ou petits ?
On ne rentre pas en cave tous les fruits. On choisit les plus beaux et les plus sains .
La température de la cave doit être fraîche, mais hors-gel. L’humidité doit être suffisante. La cave doit être aussi ventilée pour éviter un trop fort taux d’éthylène qui accélérerait la maturation des fruits.
Et bien évidemment, les variétés des fruits encavés doivent être de longue conservation. Quelle que soit la cave, vous n’arriverez pas à conserver une pomme de moisson jusqu’à Noël.
Cordialement
D Etalon (Doubs)

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il y a 10 ans 11 mois #19 par jerome.hidalgo

Merci Etalon pour toutes ces précisions très utiles !

Si quelqu'un a une cave, je suis preneur de photos pour m'inspirer un peu...

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il y a 10 ans 11 mois #20 par Henri Fourey

Bonjour,
Je ne suis par partisan de la cave, pour moi un local extérieur suffisamment isolé, ventilé, sombre, doit mieux convenir, il suffit de prévoir un système de chauffage d'appoint anti-gel pour les trop fortes baisses de température.
Je joins l'adresse du fruitier réalisé dans un de nos vergers en extérieur.
Bien cordialement.
Henri

www.croqueur-idf.fr/reportages/15-emm%C3...3%A0-chambourcy.html

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il y a 10 ans 11 mois #21 par jerome.hidalgo

Merci pour ce témoignage. Quelle est la dimension du fruitier (environ) et pour combien de fruitiers est-il utilisé ?

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il y a 10 ans 11 mois #22 par Henri Fourey

Réponse de Henri Fourey sur le sujet Dimensions cave

Bonjour,

Le fruitier photographié, fait environ 12 m2 et un peu plus de 2m de haut,
mais il est largement insuffisant pour environ 300 fruitiers pommes et poires,
pour ma part sur 10m2 je stocke environ 50 pommiers, mais en cageots bois
superposés sur 1.80m de haut et 4 rangées de 2m de long, env 180 cageots,
posés sur des bancs d'école en tube, pour les souris et autres grimpeurs.
Cordialement.
Henri

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